Remember The Dragon? Returned! In The Form Of Chips

Sunday 22nd of January 2012 07:47:48 PM

but that what you did if you wanted to and I always had struck me that.
Breaks lead me to the television in the early 1980s in a program of Fernando Bravo of ATC which was called "full color". In that program they asked to do strange things and asked that towards, told them that it was karateka and it broke wood and they told me "do ice bars not break?". and I will be watching them because I did that (silent) and I said yes. I almost say that not because in my life seen an ice bar and told them that if because foresaw that if my response was I not missed. Then told me, Sunday you are going to break ice bars venite". That day come to my house and my dad I wonder if they had given me ball thinking that I had chartered, and told him that if "Sunday will break ice bars" almost faints. "If you never saw an ice bar", told me, "well I'll go and I am going to paste", answer you; and so it was.
Then me llamo Borocoto tele to do the same and hence batí national record of 6 bars of ice. I was Chile, Uruguay and Venezuela where I was with Guy William "The Fox", the Chilindrina and others and left me 6 months there. After that I devoted to teaching and some years later called me the production of the program of Gerardo Sofovich in 87' to "The night of Sunday" because I had world record of 50 Woods broken in 47 seconds. This record of wood could not overcome, but Gerardo liked and I once again call for breaking ice. The first would be national record of 6 until you reach the world record of 10 bars that I have yet. A few years ago I what he wanted to get a Dutch but broke destination that your decision before Fernando Bravo and change your life




If, if I told Fernando that he broke no rods today Dragon would not exist. Fernando I released and Gerardo Sofovich I became popular.







You spoke of the Dragon, which was step prior to this character?



When programme by Gerardo was a such Echavarria, Argentine, returns us and came here saying that it was world champion and that he had done thousands of things and here in argentina comes a kind by saying that he is superman and everyone thinks that it is going to go flying, and all were believed. When I was presented, producer of "The night of Sunday" Héctor Locaso told me "this is Hector Echaverria world champion" and when Hector throws me hand in hand, I give you the hand and say "you're not world champion of nothing"




Calificame to Echaverria with a single word




It could not, with a single word. Hector is a rare type. It is a good martial artist, but came with the airs of us who want you to sell a balloon, they are they who saved the world and is not Argentine, who saved the world are the Americans and came with that, with the Yankee flag on his head. are a few tarambanas who believe everything I say and found me that I not believed him nothing. So I told you you're not champion of nothing and thus began my relationship with Hector.

I was not best artist martial but if most popular Hector and when I get to be only and best. Find my shade, Gerardo who is very smart to produce realized that and we face on television.



Hence officially begins to take shape everything more strongly...



Hence Héctor Echeverria armo a display of karate in Superdomo in Mar del Plata where were going to deal with the two characters better known, of the bars of ice and Echeverria "lethal weapon". He comes and tells me "we set up an exhibit and fund a fight between us two to 6 rounds to show each style, you will pay $700 and a stay of 7 days in a hotel 5 stars", I said "great", firm contract, I went with my two sparrings, my wife and when arriving at Mar del Plata one of these friends sparrings tells me "there are posters". "where?" ask you. When I saw one of the posters that were everywhere I wanted to die. In poster said "for title world". I get to Mar, I find myself with this and a lot of reporters, looked I Russian bad and Rocky, good. And all I asked "are going to fight for world title" and I wanted me to kill because permission to do just a exhibition match.

Midsummer holiday, Superdome was filled with 2,700 people. Talk with Héctor, I angry with him, I told him "do world title are going to fight if you do not have title of nothing?", I was free, I wanted to pull back and representative told me that not because there was already much inverted silver. And as it was the first big I towards went ahead because there were many things by half as televisación of fight, Conference of press, radio and other stuff, but I did not agree and I told him that once all pass was going to talk to the Federation by this lie of Hector and the world title he told me it was all a show, and that people knew. For me it was all very rare.





Comes moment of the match and this Navy thus: in first, second and third round me lucia I, and in fourth, fifth and sixth are lucia him and remained to tie, he not lose title and I no nothing. What's more, the fight her rehearsing twice to see that it was what they were going to do everything choreographic. Minutes of the match in locker room, is he with all his mafia, two managers of him and three black belts in tae kwondo which were judges - lie - of the match, ask to speak alone with me and tells me "good that we do, an exhibition match or a match seriously?" patoteandome. And I reply, "I came here to do an exhibition match, you know""a year ago and means that I train for breakage and not karate, even did a paltry fight of practice with my students", I had arm hurt right and was unable to fight seriously. Tells me, "Well, to make the exhibition match then" and I told him "if I can't and I am not training", and clear resigned told me "we were so then"
Enter my lady and asks me that step, and comment you "I came to patotear".




And what happened in the match?



I go to stadium filled, first round copper in my life, I stick on all sides. In 12 years never nobody got me the hands that I got it because above is good and fast. I thought that Hector out there with success of the time had primed for this reason I had gotten more hands of stipulations. In second round I shit to cajetilla but badly wrong, I hold what I could, I got a couple of blows but stamina. In that fight I learned many things, and never had to leave practice fights because he hit me and I closed the eyes. I return to my corner of my corner wanted to kill, and one tells me "Paste you because you are going to kill", I went to the third round and continued hitting me then I thought "until you came here". It mistake that made Hector is that as he thought it was an exhibition match gloves that had posts were light contact and not full contact, full contact are big and fat as the boxing, and the light contact has one centimeter in thickness, are to make semi-combate, i.e. to highlight. small big mistake it was
that gave a typethat it was prepared to break ice bar a few guantecitos who had an inch mattress, then each stroke I put was as break 7 ice bars, then charge in third round, fourth and fifth and so throw three times. Many times when we were twisted me began to say "Tug, tug of war" and what I say is "you started you". So throw three times, they had up to 800, because I learned that it was his half-brother. In one paste you a blow you short cheek and gave him two or three points, raises doctor and says that there is more, upload manager from him and pushes it to continue fighting. I assume you other cheek, there were moments when don't hit you because he saw that the eyes you put white and did not want to beat him more. I had no good technical but if physical because he taught aerobics.
Finish the fight and gave the tie and throughout world began to chiflar.
When I leave I saw him with two cut cheekbones and a woman crying that she was the mother. I looked all red by the blows and physician when I check told me that I stay quiet because Hector was worse than I. Had an ambulance waiting to take it but Hector didn't want to go out in an ambulance.
Text box: another day in hotel are two of the judges of the match apologize me telling me that "do we had to tell it to was tie but we saw clearly that ud so shit cajetilla, could speak with ud then?" told me that I lookedin bar in the corner, still I should be waiting because I I warm after this bolonqui and wasn't. Back to the hotel and tell me that I had to withdraw, I want to talk to the people of Echaverria, never have, never paid me $700 at that time was much silver and verse I did with Hector was that I was not as stipulated. Later I learned that I stick seriously because he wanted to overshadow me and make me disappear in the environment, why all this was armed and in the end he came shot backfires.




That fight this filmed?


Yes, everything is filmed with multiple cameras, who so made is Mar del Plata and it must have insurance. We must get it.



The problem continued in the media?
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Yes, I was with Portal, he gave me camera I eventually came out to tell the truth about the my fight with Echevarria. Sofovich also, when returned from the match I didn't want to talk about and I grabbed on camera and told me "I know that they paid you anything, know they lied you" and then went with Portal…que you have to take a dog lost step to greet him. I had a horse and I'd like to drop him with a horse to the program, hahaha.








And as you transform in Dragon and get to the movie Extermineitors?



After a year of this he was walking down the Street towards canal 2 and by Lavalle were the offices of Argentina SonoFilm, out the window I see Carlos Mentasti (owner of ASF) and says "this is kind that breaks the ice bars, this is type that I want to do in the movie of Dragon". I went to the gym where he worked and the receptionist tells me that I had called ASF because I wanted to make a film, I told him: "short you are loading".
I summarize, signed contract to make "The Dragon" and as not closed to Emilio Disi and Guillermo can face me in fight to me, then tells me in textual words of Carlos Mentasti "do you do not have any student, black belt or champion here can confront you?, someone who can make you counterpoint." And I told him that if, again a week I talk to them and tell me "we learned that you had a fight in Mar del Plata with Héctor Echaverria, which remained the pica, you can not contact him". "I never more see it" I said. "Good around table text: Let's see if we put on it so that in the end he fight with you". In particular, Héctor Echaverria made Argentine thanks to Nestor Varzé cinema because they needed a counterpoint to Dragon, because it could not Dragon fight Guille and Emilio, although it was a movie for kids wanted to have a bit of emotion. Why Echevarria ends up working for ASF. To me thanks Hector in argentina did something.
Thanks to the Pike that existed, Mentasti no was no fool and he realized that, but he told me: "do they were with pica and went to fight in Luna Park not?". "Yes," I said, "but now not squabble nothing because""I never pay" A Echaverria not so went to see until first day of filming.








And as it was reunion with Hector in the filming?


The meeting was cordial because I am very respectful, front he greeted me and I will answer greeting, we found the hand and I told him "look I don't want to have any treatment with you but this is a unique opportunity for two Argentine martial artists, we are going to use it and if we have to put together a fight we put together and will only have an employment relationship" and thus it was throughout the film.




As it was the experience of filming for the first time?



The filming experience was really good, memorable.




Tell us first day



The first day I had a little problem with film director Carlos Galettini who is a genius, (hehe laughs) was really good because I was told that the presentation of Dragon had to be a fight of the WP, then I pass 20 days putting together the fight with one of my best black belts because he wanted a match as few times had seen in the Argentina. Us matabamos with this kid because trying to those fights were the mostpossible realistic, and we got to stick because he wanted to see realism. I arrive day of the shooting in Ezeiza, makes the round with all the ninjas, there were people of technique, assistants, extras and Galettini tells me "good move the fight" and that day for 120 people who were in set 70 were martial artists (who were ninjas) and the truth that we kill, we gave everything. Then we finished, exhausted so I look at Galettini and it tells me "no, this is not what we want", "as not?", I say I, and tells me "if want do laps in RAM air, threatening and this has nothing of the sort and separate what you have to revolear, are going to put a muñeco…" and hence I I got mad because you dress such as Argentine filmspull a doll and you realize that this is a doll. "No, as a doll, we we are hitting seriously" I said, people who were there didn't understand anything because they saw that we had sent us a flower of fight. Then got me "and ud who is?", and jumps Assistant to the director and said me "he is director". "And good" tell him "I am expert in martial arts, uds dediquense to cameras and I to the fights" haha. Then it came to talking to me Carlos Olveira, partner of Mentasti, and told me to "see, i Nestor which you would like to explain a few things" and well there convinced me that he was not American Argentine cinema, which here sent managers and then did what they wanted and so it was throughout the film.


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Yes, a round as they were with the days numbered Galettini was filming another scene, one of the attendees of Charles then comes and tells me that I had to shoot a fight mine, "armate a fight with two guys yours going to shoot" and there I said this is mine, and we film a scene that Dragon fight with 2 ninjasdo, I chose the best two black belt my school and calculating the difference of technique and style that is in that fight with respect to the others, because?, because it is the only time that they let me work with my people, and was done in a single take, a system of work that I learned from the outside. For me it is the scene of fighting to more stands throughout the film.




It may that the time commented that Patricia Saran has broken down filming a scene be?




Noo, that step is that it turned ankle running and good, as it was necessary to advertise the film invented that, it was very linda, a model among many men in set. Filmabamos in Ezeiza and Tiger had invented that crocodiles escaping in well of the camp of Dragon had been broken and if you look the scene at well, crocodiles are stolen from the Tarzan movie, lol. He had to sell the film.



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It may that the time commented that Patricia Saran has broken down filming a scene be?


Noo, that step is that it turned ankle running and good, as it was necessary to advertise the film invented that, it was very linda, a model among many men in set. Filmabamos in Ezeiza and Tiger had invented that crocodiles escaping in well of the camp of Dragon had been broken and if you look the scene at well, crocodiles are stolen from the Tarzan movie, lol. He had to sell the film.


Another thing in the film which was yours improvisation?






In the sequence I pin a knife in post that was not scheduled, I say look up that next a helicopter, which is never helicopter, is also another film, then you thing you have to imagine and I came walking and I stop so and told this lacks something, then as it was in the jungle to take knife and key you in treewas it not in script.



We know that more than one question may sound silly, but we also know that the true fan of these films interested know everything and nothing seemed secondary. Hablanos of how agree the character aesthetically.

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I am Polish, stretchy told me "the Polish" but in the films hair did me much dye rubio still, at that time did not understand but after watching American films I realized tells that when one is blond do albino so you have more face wrong and I convinced to dye me if was true of the more than bad facewhat they decoloraron me and thus left, lol.



Hablanos of your disciple in the film, big peel which was you



Ulus, that was one of the boys that more Argentine films made, performed several characters in Titans in Ring was Go-in-pak fight Fort, he was in several of the Luci, has lots of movies made, a type macanudisimo of first, one of the best I knew, he looked at me and told me "you transpires that I will cover the shoulders", note that he did nothing, was behind crossed arms; us matabamos of laughter, a macanudisimo type.







You I liked that the main henchmen of Dragon were women ninjas?


No, malisimo. I do not I like asshole films, for the kids were a success and did much silver but those things were a silly thing. I wanted that Dragon was a beast seriously and that outside in serious killer Asian who said the film, to Disi made the comic parts and I theparties seriously, there was where I clash a little with the production, I said "this is for kids and you got that do like this..." and after finish doing that in Brigade tail, which clarified that I liked also, but I would have done it otherwise.



But you understand that are films made for guys



If I understood then, why did the second, because I understood and the second I relax more and went with the mentality of I do what they want, understand business and in the second they let me do more things, Galettini told me "armate a fight", gave me more freedom.


Extermineitors 2 "revenge of the Dragon" enters a new character, Randolph McClain.


Another package that brought.It was counter, supposedly yellow belt, champion and he had never done anything and they brought him as a double of Schwarzenegger. To fight Hector sold to the people of the Luna Park which was American Champion, I think put 8mil people of which 7,000 realized that it was all lies because they were many martial artists to whom they can not lie.




Any anecdote with McClain?



I have one very funny. The 2nd Extermineitors also filming at two points and a relax mine is representative of McClain and tells me "Do Nestor you can assemble a fight to Randolph?", to my had presented it to me as American Champion but I knew that wasn't champion anything, say hello and I recognized it as such, as I said before, now understood better as it was business.Then asked me representative, I am going to put together the match thinking that McClain was not and I called to speed up time with opponent, but it is that when I get Yes he was, then I say "Ah, is McClain, that her equips him" and say me "no no, the got that arm you because McClain knows nothing", how it is thennot is that was champion and not be the more?. Translator of ask through you that knows how to make and he, very humble tells me "my wine Hector in the USA, I contract, he told me come to the Argentina let's make a movie, you're similar to Schwarzenegger, I am presenting you as a champion, you are going to give so much money and a couple of fights in Luna Park", or of a business and the kind you Hill perfect, as it was not going to come.


Then was McClain a simple office counter?



If told you me himself. I continue with the story, then put together the match that I called (which Randolph fights with a mask of metal) and did not know anything, not wise to put on guard and a particularity that caught my attention, when I say stand well and cerra fists, type when it closed fists put thumb inside. Hence I realized that poor guy the only thing that was done in his life was to write to machine.











But outside that countto McClain this is rather loose in combat



It was bodybuilder, was hard but dress such as cinema, the film is 24 frames per second, if you spend another speed and what edit well.... not noticeable that you know nothing.



That fight in the 2nd movie, Randolph fighting a masked man for the information of all is "Kato", hablanos of him.
Text box: other than this all films, a phenomenon, macanudisimo. I fought with him than to a command of the good in the first in camp of Dragon and the 2nd in jail, (had a mustache to differentiate character). Kato is a type barbaro is rubber, is very professional in likes laburar, good deal with around world.



And Ramos that you got to say?(it makes second Echevarria and was)
(in all Extermineitors, in the 4th installment is master of Nico)
To Miguelito told him that he and I had to do it towards very good karate, failed it here Ramos, take a very good Karateka.



Then the only stain is Hector…



And Yes, to my I shit, I'm hoping the 700 pesos which I must Héctor jajajajaja, would not come me bad lol.

But I want to be fair, but it is beyond your yanquilandia technically very good and is very fast, recently I saw a movie it's USA TV and text box: I really liked as he appeared serious.
Was comiquisimo to hear him speak, because I had this settled Central American typewith all world "oie chicu as you are you, come here..." and suddenly when I was with one single intimacy you said:
"good hacemo black '" and soon leave someone and was returning to its Caribbean tone, hahaha.
But I want to make it clear and not to look good, if not because I want to be fair, it is very good at what he does and I saw him acting very well the last time, I hope that do you well and to continue to do things.



Voice-over we told that there is a scene of the 2nd part of that change on the fly and you do not like



The scene where I meet for the first time McClain in jail, being opposite script said that he should head down to see me, but was decided to change it and that this should be the other way round.



Well, the question expected perhaps as it was work with Emilio and Guillermo?



If you will excuse the expression, ME CAGUE DE RISA MUCHISIMO, geniuses are the two together. Not be because did not more times duo go dressed like things are sometimes in this country, because saving the differences are a couple like Olmedo and Porcel, something unique that occurs rarely in life. The two were very good, came together and said "well you do this, I do the other, see vos Godforsaken this, what you think if I" and thus leaving things and us cagabamos laughter all in set. They were very spontaneous but beyond that there was a script. For example, garraban script saying that in this scene was Emilio Disi, and appears Dragon, then told me "do Dragon veni, you are going to say?... presiosa.Bueno then because you do not this gesto…. I told them that to a rugido…. well, then when he roars you do such thing...." They were there at the touch and is towards the first takes because it was terrific. Then they both away camera also you cagabas of laughter, for me it is a shame that they are separated. Do dress that magic that occurs when together two such as fat and black starting talk and one kills the laughing?, good as well.
Table of texto:Guillermo had that so characteristic of him grace and Emilio was more like leader, marked way, noticed that it was of more experience, a very good person, very humble, I thing eh crossed a couple of times I labúro and him with little work and I said "as you are not doing anything?... .anda to see this here"", to so-and-so beyond".










We think the same as you, a great pair of the best in the history of the Argentine comedy with a comparable to that of Olmedo and Porcel magic.

If good looks, Extermineitors 1 was successful, the two also had success, the three and the four are a mess, because? because not this Emilio Disi. has no who ponder it, Guille is very good, the movies you will laugh but lack Emilio and lack Duo and that note. On 3 and 4, luckily I am not because they are a hodgepodge.



Because you are in the 3rd not part?

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Because no they paid me what I wanted. I for the 3rd party was associated with the Argentina company of actors, then I advised and they told me what I had to charge for 30 days of filming that was not what I going to pay and I corresponded. And are the manifeste, Mentasti told me "you I can not do this because already this script and I have clothes made of the dragonbreath" and I told them "you do not find that before making the clothes of the Dragon must be set if Dragon is going to make the film" I turned around and wentthen called me to offer me more silver and told them that do not.



You arrepentís you?



Tootii, mira…...(pauses, looks downward) eeeh, sometimes if I am very impulsive. To my I like a lot Argentine cinema in the golden age of black and white and once heard a story to Luis Sandrini that said it doesn't matter if the movie was bad or good, had to shoot film because it was the only one left. And I said is right, because if says it someone as Sandrini…. and maybe I think that and I say, I did 2 films but it could have made 4.



A story more to remember of Extermineitors?



Yes, one that was comiquisima, premiere film of 1st Extermineitors. Was in a film of Lavalle, when we left was filled with people and my in a corner I swear I was tight twenty kids asking me for autographs, and in other corner was Hector with 5 or 6 then to him him is also full of kids but the funny thing was that I approached me director Galettini and said "look as things are, you're villain of the piece and you are surrounded by people and one who is good does not give ball nobody" hahaha.
Since that day always I wanted to do wrong.



Of director Carlos Galettini something to limit?



Except that silly thing happened to me first day of filming, what I can say is that Galletini are of those people with whom you work and once her know well already want her forever.



Do you came to see someone more?



No, almost anyone, William the last time was in the movies, is that I I missed, I missed many years, I opened it because I get tired, I disappoint much, so a bit I was not in the 3, I disappoint with Brigade tail also where I did 3 double chapters and one simple and to the 5th chapter already wasn't.



Was which the cause of your disappointment on time?



I did not like style of work here, no discredit anyone, I am very perfectionist and me here struck much way of working and all the enthusiasm that had me was desaparecí. Not because lacking job offers, at the time my name is Portal, Gasalla was never going by this story, then that if I I started to run out of offers and one day I said to myself ready, here comes and I devote to teaching.



Do you still recognize as Dragon?

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Yeah, I was 14 years dedicated to teaching and never ceases to be Dragon and of ice bars disappeared, there are people that still recognizes me for those two things





That sensational things that brings us together here remember old times and that after all this time there are still very current, so existing .

With the people of the "Red martial" portal and magazine "Masters" are arming show more great martial arts ever done in the Argentina, in Luna Park, to be called "The coup of the Dragon". We are trying to various embassies we sponsor, will have exhibits with things never seen in country, but I can not count. A show for all world, for who likes martial arts and those who do not also and I will take breaks.



For the nostalgicos of these movies about the Dragon this is an excellent opportunity to see, live and doing his specialty, break things.

I am training for that because I break a new world record, breaking 50 ice bars, we're going to get in touch with people from Guinness, everything will be certified.



Does that more are you doing?



I am dedicated to the teaching of karate, also I would like my Gymnastics classes, working with the Foundation Japanese Argentine makes3 years now, I do all the weekends a show at Japanese garden called "thousand years of Samurai culture", and made the armor.





As you see martial arts today?




Bad, few do karate seriously, because it is a discipline that demands much sacrifice, then today there are more people in a class of Tae-bo, because it is more easy, little music Fund, strips a kick and nobody says "are you making a huevada". Vos questions today and throughout world did something and in fact they did nothing, throw cajetilla and kicked into the air or give the bag that is not have done something. It who wants to do something seriously has adhering to discipline and be constant, but in a gym to go when you are given the win, happens that there is much vandal, little is done and everything.



If today comes Mentasti and proposes you to make a movie


I say that if, by what I said before, I am convinced of what he said Sandrini, is right. And long ago that I do nothing and I'd like to break into film.


Now if the last, if you you cross to Hector Echevarria you do?



I think that if today I crossed Hector I welcome and I give the hand without hesitation because in the end he finished appreciating, we are already part of the folklore of the martial arts. Once in Brigade tail hit a blow without wanting to and behaved like a gentleman. That Yes, Héctor pagamethe 700 pesos and then continue speaking, jajajajaja.